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hillbilly joe old

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C maj scale
« on: October 28, 2010, 05:19:53 PM »
What should I be learning about the C major scale

I'd like to start with the basics.
I know maybe just a little about it, but I'd like to build a foundation of knowledge with your help


thanks guys

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 06:58:00 PM »
Hi Hillbilly Joe
If you tell what you know about the C major scale, I could perhaps help you easier

Generality
The main thing, is that the C major scale is exactly the same than all the others major scales but transposed
Ex: C maj scale notes and intervals are
C (1 step) D (1 step) E (1/2 step) F (1 step) G (1 step) A (1 step) B (1/2 step) C
All the white on a piano

Now, look the G major scale with the always same intervals
G (1 step) A (1 step) B (1/2 step) C (1 step) D (1 step) E (1 step) F# (1/2 step) G

You see, if you respect these intervals between the notes, you'll find all the notes of all the 12
scales You'll find
1 sharp notes on key of G - (F#)
2 sharp notes on key of D - (F# / C#)
3 sharp notes on key of A - (F# / C# / G#)
4 sharp notes on key of E - (F# / C# / G# / D#)
5 sharp notes on key of B - (F# / C# / G# / D# / A#)
6 sharp notes on key of F# - (F# / C# / G# / D# / A# / E#)
7 sharp notes on key of C# - (F# / C# / G# / D# / A# / E# / B#)

Now, try the same intervals begining with F
F (1 step) G (1 step) A (1/2 step) Bb (1 step) C (1 step) D (1 step) E (1/2 step) F
This time, is appeared a Flat note (Bb)
Now, try yourself to find to find the notes of these others major scales
Bb
Eb
Ab
Db
Gb
Cb

OK now you've got all the notes of all the major scales
See "the cycle of the fifth"
Funny no?
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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 07:15:40 PM »
Since I'm not familar with the particulars like many guys in here (I just play 'em) I'd recommend this website below. I just have the "feel" for it but I couldn't explain it.



http://www.all-guitar-chords.com

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 03:03:08 AM »
I suggest that you possible consider the CAGED method of scales, which is well described in books and the internet. This method describes the scales, A,G,E,D as well as C played at five different positions on the guitar. I found that scales improved my accuracy of picking and helped build up finger strength and ensured the ring and pinky came into play.
When you have learnt all the major scales, there are the minor scales, pentatonic major and minor and of course the modes.

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 05:10:47 AM »
Thanks Zagatron 1 for this good site: http://www.all-guitar-chords.com
Really good summary , simple, clear and very usefull

hillbilly joe old

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2010, 06:01:21 AM »
Hi Hillbilly Joe
If you tell what you know about the C major scale, I could perhaps help you easier

Generality
The main thing, is that the C major scale is exactly the same than all the others major scales but transposed
Ex: C maj scale notes and intervals are
C (1 step) D (1 step) E (1/2 step) F (1 step) G (1 step) A (1 step) B (1/2 step) C
All the white on a piano

Now, look the G major scale with the always same intervals
G (1 step) A (1 step) B (1/2 step) C (1 step) D (1 step) E (1 step) F# (1/2 step) G

You see, if you respect these intervals between the notes, you'll find all the notes of all the 12
scales You'll find
1 sharp notes on key of G - (F#)
2 sharp notes on key of D - (F# / C#)
3 sharp notes on key of A - (F# / C# / G#)
4 sharp notes on key of E - (F# / C# / G# / D#)
5 sharp notes on key of B - (F# / C# / G# / D# / A#)
6 sharp notes on key of F# - (F# / C# / G# / D# / A# / E#)
7 sharp notes on key of C# - (F# / C# / G# / D# / A# / E# / B#)

Now, try the same intervals begining with F
F (1 step) G (1 step) A (1/2 step) Bb (1 step) C (1 step) D (1 step) E (1/2 step) F
This time, is appeared a Flat note (Bb)
Now, try yourself to find to find the notes of these others major scales
Bb
Eb
Ab
Db
Gb
Cb

OK now you've got all the notes of all the major scales
See "the cycle of the fifth"
Funny no?
I wish i've been useful, clear and not wrong
Tell me if you want more


Thanks blue

I just quickly glanced over what you wrote and tomorrow I'll take a more complete look and get back with you.

again so many thanks for taking the time to explain

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 06:02:44 AM »
Since I'm not familar with the particulars like many guys in here (I just play 'em) I'd recommend this website below. I just have the "feel" for it but I couldn't explain it.



http://www.all-guitar-chords.com

hey zag 

I can always count on you coming through

You got to let me know when you come to Japan for the wife and I can treat you to some sushi

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 06:04:48 AM »
I suggest that you possible consider the CAGED method of scales, which is well described in books and the internet. This method describes the scales, A,G,E,D as well as C played at five different positions on the guitar. I found that scales improved my accuracy of picking and helped build up finger strength and ensured the ring and pinky came into play.
When you have learnt all the major scales, there are the minor scales, pentatonic major and minor and of course the modes.

Hi ice

I'm not familiar with the CAGED method

can you lead to a website that you use


thanks so much

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 03:20:49 PM »
What should I be learning about the C major scale

I'd like to start with the basics.
I know maybe just a little about it, but I'd like to build a foundation of knowledge with your help


thanks guys

Rick04901

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 03:25:15 PM »
What did you want to know about the C major scale, and why did you choose it to ask about? Here's why I ask: This stuff can get overwhelming in a big hurry. The nature of your question tells me that you're already lost. I'll try to help if I know more.

All the best,

RickW

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2010, 06:33:58 PM »
hope i don't get banned for spamming but this site has all chords and scales and the extensions

http://www.chordbook.com/      up top click guitar scales

hillbilly joe old

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2010, 06:39:16 PM »
hope i don't get banned for spamming but this site has all chords and scales and the extensions

http://www.chordbook.com/      up top click guitar scales


thanks rick

I'll check it out

I just added it to my bookmarks  :)
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icespeckledhen

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2010, 07:29:39 AM »
Hi HillBilly
I am wondering if Robert has covered the CAGED, if not try this website for lots of info on scales. Incidently, some of the riffs you see are not based on Major, Minor or the Pentatonics but use some of the modes, Dorian, Lydian or MIxolydian.
http://www.justinguitar.com

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2010, 07:45:01 AM »
One more thing, having read Bluefingers and what he says is right but it may be simpler to learn the major scale at the 5th fret (A) and slide the scale up and down the neck. i.e A major  at the 5th, slide the same scale to the 8 fret and its C major or down to the 1st fret and its F major.

The formula for the major scale is Tone -  Tone -  Semitone  -  Tone  -  Tone   -   Tone   -   Semitone
                                               
                                                       T      T     S     T     T      T      S
                                                   C  -  D  -  E  -  F  -  G  -  A  -  B  -  C

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Re: C maj scale
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2010, 07:57:52 AM »
One more thing, having read Bluefingers and what he says is right but it may be simpler to learn the major scale at the 5th fret (A) and slide the scale up and down the neck. i.e A major  at the 5th, slide the same scale to the 8 fret and its C major or down to the 1st fret and its F major.

The formula for the major scale is Tone -  Tone -  Semitone  -  Tone  -  Tone   -   Tone   -   Semitone
                                               
                                                       T      T     S     T     T      T      S
                                                   C  -  D  -  E  -  F  -  G  -  A  -  B  -  C

hi ice

I'll check out justin site

and thanks for your tip on where to begin, great help