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Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« on: November 10, 2016, 07:13:12 AM »
... and then, because I could not do it properly, I went even faster, @ 240, and of course, could not do it either ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIOGJM-KNg

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2016, 11:30:46 PM »
the woodpecker at that speed would coz me to want my shotgun more than a guitar, Vladan!

why not cut the woodpecker in half, say 120 bpm, and start from there?

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 08:12:30 AM »
Thanks Reb, but the only way is UP!

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 10:39:17 PM »
Guess I'd turn out th' lights at 1:13 too an' just go for it. I don't let them high bpms get me, I just cheat an' play 'em in half time haha!

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2016, 06:14:25 AM »
Guess I'd turn out th' lights at 1:13 too an' just go for it. I don't let them high bpms get me, I just cheat an' play 'em in half time haha!

Yeah, Zag, my man, like there's something to be lost, anyway ...

Here's the link to blog post with same clip:
http://vladanmovies.blogspot.com/2016/10/donna-lee-in-two-octaves-210-bpm-240-bpm.html

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2016, 11:04:22 AM »
Accurate aren't you, haha? Oh, by the way, I like that jazzy flavor in there too. Good!

I constantly work on my accuracy 'cause I like it clean. I have a tendency to hit open strings (or miss completely). Not as much as I used to, but it's still there.

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2016, 05:43:53 AM »
Personally, if it's all clean, I find it lifeless. I like a good dose of dirtiness. Sometimes there can be too much, but better too much than nothing, IMO.

BTW, for the info, if anybody wonder ...

Donna Lee is considered to be "The Most Complicated Head (Melody) in the History of Be - Bop Jazz".
Officially, composer was Charlie "The Bird" Parker, but many people agree that it sounds more like Miles Davis' effort, who at the
time was young apprentice in Bird's band. It went by Bird's name so the company would allow it on the record and so the band
would make more money. On one occasion someone asked Bird for permission to use the tune and Bird have directed him to ask
Miles about it.

Anyway, originally they played it at about 220bpm, but now days, especially ever since Jaco Pastorius did it on bass, it's commonly played anywhere from 240 - 320 bpm.

The most notorious version is this one, by Joe Pass, Terry Clark, Oscar Peterson, N.Pederson ... where poor ole' Joe have just
about lost him self @ about 340 bpm tempo. IMO it's fair to say, when his time was to solo, the rest of the band sped up just a
notch, but enough to throw him away. They all soloed on a bit slower tempo than Joe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuXIMQGqXGk
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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2016, 05:03:12 PM »
Accurate aren't you, haha? Oh, by the way, I like that jazzy flavor in there too. Good!

I constantly work on my accuracy 'cause I like it clean. I have a tendency to hit open strings (or miss completely). Not as much as I used to, but it's still there.

Just have realised ... regarding accuracy ... I did not play second part in the dark, screen is black because camera lens was against the wall. I understood your message about turning  off the lights as metaphorical, but now realised maybe you ment literary.
 I don't want to give false impression. I can not play it that "good" without looking at my hands and guitar neck.

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2016, 03:46:29 PM »
i just saw 'In The World' project.  good on both you guys!!

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2016, 08:17:24 AM »
Reb,

please feel free to join the project in any way you may find suitable.

You can pick one of my original recordings, as offered, in various stages of development and play solo over it, cut, paste, rearrange ... write the lyrics ... really does not matter.
Whatever you do with it, you are free to use in any way you want, including commercial, as long as you mention the source and provide the link to it. ie. to my YT clip with original audio.

At the same time, I will not use your work in any way, except I will publish it on my page (s). I will put all the links to wherever you want and write all the credits you may wish. Also, I will not put monetization on it, so I will not earn anything over your back, creativity and hard work.

It will be clearly displayed if you allow for possible further reuse of your work by possible other participants and what you ask for in return, if anything.

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Re: Trying out Donna Lee @ 210 bpm
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2016, 11:47:01 PM »
thanks, Vladan.  i'll think on what i might do on these issues.