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Guitars Talk => Electric Guitars => : IM4Tone January 17, 2011, 04:47:15 PM

: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: IM4Tone January 17, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
I'm getting a strong urge for one of these :-\ They're to hit the stores around March 1st.
Opinions? :-\
http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=2000
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: creekster52 January 17, 2011, 07:09:46 PM
I've had the itch too. Maybe by the time they hit the stores I'll have the $$$ too!!
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: IM4Tone January 17, 2011, 09:34:53 PM
I've had the itch too. Maybe by the time they hit the stores I'll have the $$$ too!!
If you beat me to it, be sure to post about it here :)
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues January 18, 2011, 10:30:16 AM
I've seen the Gibson verison of this guitar.  Its just an odd ball guitar.  Doesn't quite fit any traditional body designs.  Doesn't mean they aren't designed well or don't play well.  They are just different.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: IM4Tone January 18, 2011, 02:44:32 PM
I've seen the Gibson verison of this guitar.  Its just an odd ball guitar.  Doesn't quite fit any traditional body designs.  Doesn't mean they aren't designed well or don't play well.  They are just different.
They claim the top half of the body is a Les Paul and the bottom is an SG shape  :-\  And I guess the fact that there are 3 pickups, the center being a single coil and the others capable of "splitting" makes it more like a fender. ???
Yes, they are different for sure and that's probably what appeals to me. :D
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: Scratch N Sniff January 18, 2011, 03:33:22 PM
Not to sure on the shape, but it has some nice tones on the video clip. If it feels and plays as well as it sounds, I'd have one. Anyone know the price ? 
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: IM4Tone January 18, 2011, 06:59:05 PM
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-EPI-EDNH-XXNH1-LIST  $399
No mention of a case. Hopefully they've designed one. They're usually an additional $70-$125.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues January 19, 2011, 08:27:08 AM
Not to sure on the shape, but it has some nice tones on the video clip. If it feels and plays as well as it sounds, I'd have one. Anyone know the price ?

Guitar Center and Musicians Friend has them listed for only $399.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: Scratch N Sniff January 19, 2011, 12:32:11 PM
250 English ! I would expect that they will be more when they hit the shore ! But a good price for a versatile guitar.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: IM4Tone January 28, 2011, 09:19:33 AM
Looks like the color I like will be available next Thursday (2/3/2011) @ http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-EPI-EDNH-XXNH1-LIST Also the SG G400 case is a fit for it...$79 and it too is available 2/3/2011.

Seems as though Gibson has also reissued their Nighthawk, a slight variation from the Epi, but same shape. Different bridge pickup (not slanted) and the two humbuckers can be split individually. It's $1400 and no mention of a case (Gibson usually supplies one w/ the guitar)...available 2/15/2011.

I know I won't spring $1400 for the Gibson, but the question is will I get the Epi or wait for more reviews and feedback from users.....major life decisions ::)
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues January 28, 2011, 10:21:43 AM
Another choice is to look for a used Gibson Blueshawk/Nighthawk.  I prefer to buy guitars gently used nowdays with no modifications.  Save a lot of money that way!  I will admit I belive the Epiphone model is much more refined looking than Gibson's verision.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: weelie January 29, 2011, 06:33:10 AM
The reason people didn't like it was the bridge pickup, as no replacements exist.

For blueshawks, there's even a fan site: http://blueshawk.info/intro.htm


: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: IM4Tone January 29, 2011, 08:43:46 AM
The reason people didn't like it was the bridge pickup, as no replacements exist.

For blueshawks, there's even a fan site: http://blueshawk.info/intro.htm
If that's the case, it would explain why the new Gibson version has a standard shape pup in the bridge.
Another choice is to look for a used Gibson Blueshawk/Nighthawk.  I prefer to buy guitars gently used nowdays with no modifications.  Save a lot of money that way!  I will admit I belive the Epiphone model is much more refined looking than Gibson's verision.
I think I'd rather have the new Epi than the old Gibson. If I were to spring for a new or even"gently used" Gibson, it'd probably be the ES-339 8)
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues January 31, 2011, 10:14:41 AM
I've got my eye on a used Gibson ES-137.  Doubt I'll get it, but I sure want to try it!
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: IM4Tone January 31, 2011, 11:55:57 PM
I've only see pictures and specs on the ES-137; haven't played or even handled one. Without playing it, I lean toward the ES-339 because of the thinner body. I love the semi-hollow body guitars for their tone and own an Ibanez AS86 (which is basically a Gibson ES-335 wannabe). It's a great guitar, but if I could make one improvement, it would be the body size...hence my attraction to the ES-339.

I also have an Epi Wildkat which is smaller than the ES-335 and has P-90 pup's. It's a great Rockabilly sounding guitar but also very versatile. Again, the hollow body gives it great tone.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues February 02, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
there's no doubt the higher end epiphones are excellant instruments.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: avalancheMM March 07, 2011, 11:01:11 PM
 I just ordered the black version from my local store, it won't be here until July! Seymour Duncan has made replacement pups for these guitars if you are unhappy with the stock ones. Epiphone are great bang for the buck, I have a mid 90's Sheraton, 1275 Double neck, G400 Custom, Les Paul Junior, and soon, a Nighthawk, and I really like them all. Granted, the pups aren't exactly boutique, but they are adequate, and the build quality is terrific for a guitar at this price point.

Regards,
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues March 08, 2011, 12:08:32 PM
I find it rather interesting that Epiphone is promoting replacement pickups in a guitar they just came out with.  Does anyone else find that odd?
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: zagatron1 March 08, 2011, 12:43:14 PM
I find it rather interesting that Epiphone is promoting replacement pickups in a guitar they just came out with.  Does anyone else find that odd?

Yeah. I didn't know about that though. I haven't done anything to my two Epi Les Pauls (Ultra & Studio Deluxe) but change strings.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues March 08, 2011, 01:44:04 PM
I had a Epi LP Standard.  I replaced the pickups with Gibson BB pro's, huge difference in tone.  Sounded much better than any Gibson Studio out there.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: zagatron1 March 08, 2011, 02:18:46 PM
I lied... I forgot I DID put 490R/498T Gibson pups in my Epi LP studio deluxe. I haven't played it in awhile. I don't know or care what it sounds better than, but most importantly, I like the way it sounds, and that works for me.
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: BogHead March 09, 2011, 09:24:08 PM
I lied... I forgot I DID put 490R/498T Gibson pups in my Epi LP studio deluxe. I haven't played it in awhile. I don't know or care what it sounds better than, but most importantly, I like the way it sounds, and that works for me.

That's how it should be. Certain pups likes certain wood (and amps) to be the sweetest. I did a lot of pup swaps on my guitars and finally settled down to keepers.

The D'Activators I have likes mahogany and SS amps for example.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: zagatron1 March 09, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
Makes sense to me.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues April 29, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
Just watched a youtube video on rob chappers channel about a Nighthawk Giveway.   Might want to look on youtube for it to enter the contest.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: creekster52 April 29, 2011, 09:05:01 PM
I just ordered the black version from my local store, it won't be here until July! Seymour Duncan has made replacement pups for these guitars if you are unhappy with the stock ones. Epiphone are great bang for the buck, I have a mid 90's Sheraton, 1275 Double neck, G400 Custom, Les Paul Junior, and soon, a Nighthawk, and I really like them all. Granted, the pups aren't exactly boutique, but they are adequate, and the build quality is terrific for a guitar at this price point.

Regards,

@avalancheMM - I hope you will give us an update when it arrives.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues June 13, 2011, 03:14:29 PM
I discovered that for a short time BB King endorsed a Gibson model known as the Little Lucille.  Good luck finding one though!  The regular Lucille's aren't common in the used market and I cannot find a Little Lucille anywhere...
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: zagatron1 June 16, 2011, 10:15:15 PM
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First time I heard of, or seen one. I believe they were only made in 1999. I understand it's a member of the "Blueshawk" family (1996-2006).
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: creekster52 June 17, 2011, 12:51:15 AM
They were blowing those out at Musician's Friend 5-6 years ago. Man...I really wanted one!

Wiki says they were produced 1996-2006.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues June 17, 2011, 10:10:46 AM
Those must be one of the hardest Gibson's to find, just short of a '59 Flying V.  They must be great guitars because those who have them aren't letting them go.
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: diaper head June 17, 2011, 05:16:11 PM
I had a Epi LP Standard.  I replaced the pickups with Gibson BB pro's, huge difference in tone.  Sounded much better than any Gibson Studio out there.

those are great pups, i have them too.
for the 335, i am doing a 57 classic neck with a plus for the bridge.  all the clarity of the BB but not quite as hot. a little more woody.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: DetroitBlues June 28, 2011, 10:44:33 AM
My next experiement in pups is a set of Seymour Duncans... JB and a JB4.
: Re: Epiphone Nighthawk Reissue
: zagatron1 June 28, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
My next experiement in pups is a set of Seymour Duncans... JB and a JB4.

That's a decent combo there DB. I got a set of Tonerider Rebel 90s on the way. I've never had anything with P90s ever.