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People in 3rd world countries have to work and they get paid less than we do here in America...but they need to eat. If you put those companies out of business those people will lose their jobs.  Think of that.

It is a problem here in US that many companies move overseas to to produce things for less money.  The bad things is Americans lose jobs.  But I cannot usually afford to buy American made products.  As there are fewer jobs for people here and the jobs become more service jobs the people in this country won't be able to afford to buy more expensive things.  :P

Guitar Talk In General / Re: Guitar Pro for you guys
« on: March 07, 2011, 04:53:39 PM »
Can someone please explain what this software actually does and how do you use it?

Does it create tablature from sound of music?  Can you print this tablature out?

If I listen to a video of Robert's lesson, does this software somehow create the tab of the lesson and can it be printed?

Thanks. This is such a mystery to me.

    Or is Guitar Pro something that just shows the tab on the computer screen and guitar neck?  8)

Guitar Playing, Technique, Theory / Re: C maj scale
« on: March 07, 2011, 04:47:02 PM »
Play the major scale on one string and you will see for example key of C there is half step between E and F and half step between B and C.

Thanks Robert, I understand most of that. I understand the major scale very well (I, IV, V chords are major, II, III, VI are minor, VII is diminished.

Where I get confused is when we talk about the Minor pentatonic scale and how those 5 notes are numbered...do these 5 notes come from the 7 note minor scale below?

I found minor scale theory for minor keys and formula for that scale which is  say
key of A    A minor,  B diminished,  C major,  D minor, E minor, F major, G major. 

In the minor scale above the third degree is a C major so that must mean the minor pentatonic 5 note scale comes from the 7 note minor scale. 8)

This is what I get for wanting to understand what I'm playing. LOL

Guitar Playing, Technique, Theory / Re: C maj scale
« on: March 07, 2011, 05:59:36 AM »
Well I have a friend who plays beautiful guitar and writes very prolifically and records...and knows no theory at all..never played a scale...but he knows the scales...he just absorbed them from listening to music. It's interesting how different people learn and function....he always tells me he approaches music with his right brain.  I know my ability to write songs came from listening to lots of them...you absorb a lot by listening...and often I find theory just explains what you can hear..it's like you play in a certain key if you hit a bad note you will hear it!  I use scales and theory as a guide...I think a combination of both is useful but you can learn a lot of theory and not play well...If you can't feel and hear the music you won't get far. It's the same with photography you can have all the technical skills but if you don't have the artistic vision it doesn't work.

Guitar Playing, Technique, Theory / Re: C maj scale
« on: March 07, 2011, 02:10:46 AM »
Scales are a guide to be familiar with the notes.  Best theory I got when I came back to guitar after 17 years of not touching one was at the Grey Fox Bluegrass Festival at the Slow Jam the guitar guy showed a chart emphasizing the 1, 4 and 5 of the scale as most important notes
1                               4         5         6m
I         ii          iii         IV        V        vi        vii  dim
C        D          E         F         G        Am        B                    key of C major

G       A           B          C         D        E          F#                 key of G major   etc.

So most played chords in any major key are the I, IV, and V.    The vi or minor 6 is the next most important and any other of the notes would be minor except for the 7th note which is diminished. Knowing this helps you to jam along at bluegrass jams when you don't know the songs...mostly simple songs....and this helped me start to write my on songs...I took off with it.  Another good thing to know is the key of C major and the key of A minor are related in that they share the same notes and same chords. I have a mandolin chord book that groups all the chords by key putting the major key with it's minor 6th.

Using this numbering system above is how you transpose to another key. Write out the other key and assign the number to it....see above....Well you have to look at the circle of fifths to know how the sharps and flats are added and I keep a copy of that on my wall.

Years ago I took guitar lessons and the first teacher made me read music so I learned to read notes but then I fired him and got another teacher to teach me to play by ear. But that first year helped me really understand timing and helped me read tab.  Some theory is very useful...to know what you are playing

Other good things to know is the notes on the fat E string and notes on Fat A string so you know what key you are in for 5th root and 6th root scales...also to know what bar chord you are playing.

Another easy tip is to understand the octaves...so at the 5th fret bass string is A, skip one string and 2 frets down is an octave and that is also an A so it helps you to know what those notes are...helps when you want to resolve to the root note when playing in box 1 as well as there are some root 4 bar chords as well.

I think it's important to have fun with guitar and not be burdened with too much theory.  Many have quit because of Berklee style teachers making them read every note on the guitar neck which is laborious...but as you can see it's helpful to know many of those notes.  Everyone has to find what works for them.  I find if I am playing from tablature I end up analyzing it to see what scales I am playing out of and why does this or that work.  Some theory is very useful especially the theory that relates to the guitar neck.  Once you know notes on 5th and 6th string you know 1st string too.

Now I am finally taking the time to learn other chords, some 9ths etc. and triads and many things I learned in the past that I haven't gone back to yet, and working on lead guitar again. I am very happy for the internet and I love Rob's lessons!

Another useful thing is seeing how the minor pentatonic scale pattern fit together on the guitar neck...again they are only a guide and one has to use those notes creatively to make good music...I am struggling with that now. Ugh. I learned the major scale years ago but use the pentatonic much more often.  For awhile I strummed and sang and now I am going to push myself to be a better guitarist.  Cheers!


Dolphinstreet Lessons / Re: Learn 24 blues licks
« on: March 06, 2011, 08:39:22 PM »
I find it hard to improvise well...I try...hoping these licks will help spice up my lead and give me some new ideas.

Dolphinstreet Lessons / Re: That Hendrix Chord explained
« on: March 06, 2011, 08:34:17 PM »
I find the A bar chord done with the thumb a little harder to do...don't get clear sound...stretch for my hand...not so easy to hit other notes...I will practice it and hope it gets easier...I wish my hands were a little bigger!

Guitar Playing, Technique, Theory / Re: turnaround number 3
« on: March 06, 2011, 04:21:31 PM »
Is it hard to make the tabs and what do you use to make your tabs?

Robert it did help very much thank you!!   

 I just want to know that we were talking about the same 3rd degree of the scale....In the pentatonic are you using the 3rd degree in a five note scale or the 3rd degree in a 7 note scale?

In a pentatonic scale do they change the numbering system or use the original numbers from the 7 note scale?  Thanks!  Sorry for the dumb questions...trying to piece together what I have read so far.

Thanks....interesting...play B minor over the E chord....that's why sometimes I go to play out of the scale and it works and I don't know why...I will try to remember this and incorporate this.

At this point I am at a basic place....I am determined that this time I will not give up on lead guitar.

Pedals and Effects / Re: Cables
« on: March 06, 2011, 04:11:21 PM »
I like Monster cables with lifetime guarantee. There were some bargain ones I tried that seemed to break near the ends. I've tried some others but Monster seems to be the longest lasting ones.  I try to guy them on sale and don't pay that much more for them.  What other brands do you folks find last a long time and don't break?

Pedals and Effects / Re: D'Addario Strings
« on: March 06, 2011, 03:47:51 PM »
I switched from D'Addario to Elixirs. The tone is amazing, and the coated ones last longer than the D'ddario coated strings.  I put them on my Alvarez acoustic guitar that is not a solid top and someone at festival told me it was as good as a Martin.  I put them on my mandolin...great tone, and 3 months later at camp jam the strings were still going strong having been played everyday.  I put them on my electric and have had them on 6 months of playing just about every day...but they do need to be changed now...Gotta get to this before I play out again. I'd say they were good for 4 1/2 to 5 months tone wise-playing 4 to 6 hours a day...I haven't played in public for the last month and have lost tone...but they lasted a long long time! The extra dollar I pay for them is well worth it! If you break a lot of strings though it might be problematic.

Guitar Playing, Technique, Theory / Re: Memorizing a whole song
« on: March 06, 2011, 02:41:22 PM »
I used to look at tabs...and my eyes glazed over too....not from boredom but from being overwhelmed.  What I've done with some songs is look at tab and maybe get key parts, maybe key riffs, and sometimes chords and triads thrown in, then improvise around it...creating my own version of the song.

It is true there's a lot of duplication in songs...once you've learned one part, you will play that part again, so you just have to remember when...ha ha.  Looking at the song structure does help, and I wish I was able to see that years ago...and take it piece by piece, which is not so overwhelming! 

It's complicated!  Well yes it helps and major pentatonic only works over the I chord.   Well I play the minor pentatonic scale the most for blues..mostly the first box, and box under it, and a little out of the other boxes...learned those yrs ago (gave up in frustration though)  I am just trying to figure out the next step what I can play that might make my leads more interesting. I need to do this out in the subway/street - I did get your bar blues vol 1.  Since notes are same in major and minor pentatonic except for root I don't know if I have played major pentatonic or not.

I have a sheet that says this for minor keys but this is with all 7 notes

i            ii            III                iv               v             VI          VII
Am      Bdim        C                 Dm             Em          F            G

So when I said the major third I meant the III in this scale.

The pentatonic scale is five notes.

A         C           D            E            G     

Do you still number them the same as above?   

Maybe it is easier to just play the damn guitar than try to understand all this.   LOL

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