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Community project: In The World
« on: May 10, 2014, 07:37:39 AM »
Here's the idea:

 In below clip, there are some key pads laying down chords, changes, should you prefer the term.
 The ideaa is to add more instruments in following clips, drums, bass, rhythm guitar, melody, ...,
 and finally solo guitar over it.

 Also, I'd love if some of you, those who feel this is on their level, would take it and do your own thing over it.
 You can use it from whatever stage of development. From only keys to complete tune, and do whatever pleases you.
 With composition, aswell as with recording. I'd appreciate if you'd credit me by giving original link, or whatever. I'm
 not to come to controll,though, so don't worry.

 Also, it would be nice if you'd post your results here. If you don't feel like posting, please send me some link on PM, or e-mail, so I can hear it.
Again, no obligations, pure curiosity.

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2014, 07:38:14 AM »
Here's the clip (BTW it's 3rd part of a road trip series from Serbia to San Marino and back). Later today, I'll post a link to chords progression:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BpKml0Mhk

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2014, 05:35:30 PM »
After listening, listening again and careful thought, I came to the conclusion that I lack (or do not possess) the level of creativity nor ability to accomplish such a feat. It would be nice, but no dice  ::) !  While the  possibility does exist, the probability is doubtful at best.
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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2014, 06:14:14 PM »
Zagatron,

don't give up without trying.
Although it may seaam complicated at first sight, it is not, reaally. If you don't know how to approach it, wait till the later stage, when I add more instruments and just shread over it in D major, or B minor pentatonics, or whatever.

Here's the link to a page with .pdf - http://carcameraclips.webs.com/files , The name of the file is "In The World"

There's couple more pdfs there.



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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2014, 03:47:59 PM »
I've received first responses. It's all band in a box, no live instruments, and as per request from the guy who made these, I uploaded them to www. For the pourpose, I've opened SoundCloud page. So, should anybody else wanted not to give own links, you can send files to me and I'll upload them to SoundCloud, ok, .... here it is:

https://soundcloud.com/in-the-world-project

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2014, 04:16:29 PM »
In second of the two, I could hear what I would regard as the "root" melody in the mix. In other words, it is more "pronounced". Is that ALL band in a box or is someone (you might know) playing guitar in the first example? n I ask because I kind of envisioned (in my head) a guitar part somewhat similar to what I heard. It's just a different story (for me) to put it into play. That stuff sounds like the aeolian mode is being used. I've been devoting my time lately into working with the dorian mode.

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2014, 09:05:19 PM »
It's all machine, no live playing. BIAB has some real tracks option, where it mixes together bits and pieces, samples, of live playing. That's what this guy used.

For the modes, I would not know. Piece is mostly in D major, or B minor. B minor is Aeolian mode of D major, D major equals to Ionian, but I don't think that way, anyway. if you're in Dorian mode, you should play E dorian over this to be in key, but why would one do so when there's only one or two e minors along the way? You could play D Dorian and be all blues. You could play B dorian, too, for more Jazzy trip. In all mentioned, now and then, some notes may not work.

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2014, 04:20:53 AM »
Ok, here's the next step from me, now with added Bass, also, you can see what Verona, Italy looks like on a rainy April day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZZGA4pQQc

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2014, 05:52:42 PM »
Ok, here's the next step from me, now with added Bass, also, you can see what Verona, Italy looks like on a rainy April day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZZGA4pQQc

Okay, you talked me into it! I'm gonna work on it to see what I come up with.

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2014, 04:47:53 PM »
Another step, drums are added to the mix. Also, in the second half of the clip again only keys andd bass, because bass was wrong on couple of notes in previous clip ....

re picture: a night drive from Verona to Bologna (Italy), on community roads, at one point I opted for U turn, and back to a bit larger road ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1W-J9_rfw

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 04:50:52 PM »
Here's the link to new fake sheet, with both chords and melody. Melody I still have to practice before recording it.

Link to Blog:
http://vladanmovies.blogspot.com/2014/05/ive-just-published-score-for-in-world.html

Link to web page:
http://carcameraclips.webs.com/files

Direct link:
http://carcameraclips.webs.com/In%20The%20World%20Melody%20and%20Chords.pdf

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2014, 07:01:25 PM »
So, here's the trial recording with Intro and melody played on guitar. I could hardly play that intro in tempo. Could not get the feel. it was not musical enough.

Therefore, I edited it, sort of visually quantized audio to the grid with small random offsets, all based on idea "If I can't naturaly make it musical, I'll make it mechanical, and I'll do it mechanicaly".

Note, I played lying in the bed, with numbnes in left arm from elbow all the way throygh the edge of the palm, to pinky and ring fingers. It's all from awkward position i'm in for 5-6 days already. I'm still on antibiotics and have laptop with me, so I'm costantly twisted to the left with lower part of left arm under me, to support me, head on left shoulder, while I type with my right hand/ arm. I tried playing this while seated and it was much better, much easier to follow the tempo. In a day or two I'll record it all again, probably with some rhvthm guitar, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W_aMA-c90s

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2014, 10:24:28 PM »
Hah! Now you know what's been takin' me so long. My problem was (to quote what you just wrote) "Could not get the feel". Tryin' to follow that was like drivin' on an unfamiliar dark winding road at night with the  headlights off and to top it off, havin' the interior lights on! :o Yes my friend, hard to follow. Especially for someone who doesn't know his notes as well as he should  ::) (Me!)! I must admit I like your way of thinkin'. The idea about makin' it "mechanical"! Now rhythm guitar is an excellent idea too! Maybe I ought'a give that a try.

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2014, 08:03:53 AM »
At least, now you can hear the propper melody, so you can use it to develop from, as a basis for improvisation.

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Re: Community project: In The World
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2014, 08:40:53 PM »
So, Stage 5, where Rhythm guitar is added. Played on tele, twice, for one chorus, tha pasted to the following.

Actually I did this couple of days ago, but did not upload it due national days of mourning to commemorate victims ofthe flood we had last week. I'm from Serbia, but it was nothing better in Croatia and Bosnia. The worst one in more than 120 years, so they say.

Intro solo is now good enough, I won't redo it, it's all played, no audio quantization. The moment I got up from bed, in sitting position, I could play it. Also, I've changed from 25.5 scale Tele to 24.something X-155. 
Guide melody on guitar throughout the first chorus is the same old edited one, with the synth one for the rest 2.

The next and final step will be improvising over it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co76jLsPskc