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tube envy
« on: July 27, 2016, 08:11:01 PM »
i don't know why, but i got to thinking about 'tube envy'.  the argument for/against 'period instruments' has gone on for a long time:

http://www.wqxr.org/story/276810-does-bach-need-rescuing-period-instruments/

https://www.handelchoir.org/PeriodInstrumentOrchestra.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/06/arts/music/06early.html?_r=0

https://classicexclusive.com/en/period-instruments/

i would submit that listening once will  not solve the dilemma for anyone, but perhaps this will help with tube envy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiVNsis2h0M

yeah, Joe.  this place needs some life in it!


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Re: tube envy
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2016, 11:47:11 AM »
BB King had great tone with a Lab Series solid state amp...

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Re: tube envy
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2016, 05:50:57 PM »
Lotta folk sound decent no matter what they plug into.........NOW, who YOU playin' fo' ????

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Re: tube envy
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2016, 03:41:19 PM »
interesting topic, with some provoking ideas. I iked this one at first glance, did hot waste time to think about:

"I think [orchestras] are panicking," said Monica Huggett, a leading baroque violinist and conductor. "In London, where I worked most of my career, the big orchestras stopped playing Bach because in the end, there was so much good historical performance that they really didn't need to do it any more and people really didn't want to hear it any more."

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Re: tube envy
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2016, 02:51:38 PM »
robert, proves that 'tone is in the fingers and in the head'.  nuthin' wrong with BB's tone atall.

zag, i'm playing for myself. i quit playing for anyone else a good while back.

V, i had a book, called something like 'how to build a classical music library'.  i still have several of the cd's the guy recommended. he was, i think, the music editor for the chicago tribune.  all the classical writers (about music) talk about 'interpretation' and 'passion'.  once in awhile, i get 'that' off of one of the cds, but mostly, not.

maybe there IS 'so much good historical performance', yet it's not the same off a cd as it is in person.  for that matter, the cd is not the same frequently as hearing a well rehearsed and competent orchestra do their thing on tv or o n the radio, although neither has the range of 'in person' in a decent hall.

and to say people don't want to hear it anymore, then society is poorer for that attitude. it's like saying 'i don't want to hear the early beatles recordings'.  what?  i can't imagine...

i suppose there are some people who don't care about music. maybe i know some of them, but they have never voiced that opinion. i hope i don't hear it.

at one point, i sent out cds to a few 'friends' of stuff i thought i had done a decent job of recording.  never got one f*&^%ng comment.  so i DO know some people who don't g.a.s. won't do that again.  some people just go thru the motions in life, i suppose.  they don't answer emails, they never call....when money or some commodity is not involved (or maybe you don't keep beer in your refrigerator, even), you find out a lot about people. maybe more than you wanted to know.

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Re: tube envy
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 04:44:59 PM »
I was not thinking so concrete about this particular style, more in a sense you mentioned The Beatles. ..

If enough many people play music in certain style good enough, for enough many times, could it mean that style is not really worth playing any more?

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Re: tube envy
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 07:28:32 PM »
that, i cannot say.  the reasons people play what they do, the style or whatever, are personal.  it's a lot like someone saying 'no one else likes jeans, so i'm going to quit wearing them, too, although i don't like any other pants'.  then, there is 'the market'.

if no one buys tickets to the symphony, will the orchestra sell their instruments? i dunno.  they been sawing at those violins and cellos for a long, long time.